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Then, Alex Wilson, a 6th grader, approached the microphone. He proceeded to chastise Wise for not looking at him while he spoke, though some in the audience began grumbling about little Alex's strong words directed at Wise. But Alex was right, as he talked, Wise was looking down, even as Alex demanded eye contact. Alex is the little boy who brought the petition signed by his classmates demanding Wise's resignation (read below).
After two other speakers, public comment was called to an end.
The board just agreed that after they vote on the motion on the floor, they will recess. The meeting will continue tomorrow at 4 p.m.
Right now, the board is discussing the motion. They are individually laying out their case for or against terminating Wise. They have unlimited time to speak. After each gets their chance, they will vote.
By the way, the General Counsel's Office has asked the elected board members not to speak publicly about the superintendent's termination, so do not expect to hear anything from them beyond what they say during the meeting.
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I would like to hear the specific charges being leveled at Dr. Wise. All I've read in the blogs is "control freak", "good riddance" etc. I've yet to hear one person, anyone, including a disgruntled sixth grader say anything concrete about Dr. Wise's performance or lack thereof. If he's a bad egg that's degrading the abilities of the school board, then I would like to know exactly what it is that he's being fired for...
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Please fill us in on the discussion as it unfolds.
Thanks!!
I know it is not appropriate for a student to be missing school to address the school board on this matter. After reading the blog on this meeting, this six grader being at the board meeting is another example of poor parenting.
He should go and talk all of his Delaware people with him!
I agree with Michael. For a child to chastise an adult would suggest someone's family circus is being run by the clowns.
How strongly I disagree with Michael and anonymous. I think we must engage our children in the political process, which is what this became in the hands of Dr. Joe Wise. Since the children are really the "consumers" here, how appropriate to hear from them with regard to the real life impact Wise's skewed leadership has created.
Participating in this process probably taught that young man more in a morning than any school could teach him in a year. Kudos to him, and kudos to his parents for making great choices.
Anonymous, engage our children when they understand the reasoning and can approach it through mature eyes and judgement. I know of many teachers who could have taught him more than what he observed this morning. Don't kid yourself!
How can anyone agree with the 6th graders behavior. Just an example of what our teachers deal with on a daily basis. No matter what the circumstance...we should NEVER teach our children to be disrespectful!!!!
What has come out of this is teaching a CHILD the art of DISRESPECT. I am appalled. I also want to know the "misdeed" Wise did. I have not heard one word on this. Just a shame!
If I were a candiate for this position I would be extremely concerned about the Board to whom I would have to answer.
Seems the good ole boy cronisim is alive and well.....as usual.
Martha, you know better. Tommy, this is usual for you. Ms Burney is black and surely she is going to cover the back of her friend.
I am ashamed, totally......
Maybe your board members should have checked with the authorities in Delaware before they hired Dr. Wise. He left his school district in Delaware millions of dollars in the hole and now the tax payers are having to foot the bill (it was around $25 million). He finally got what he deserved.
It's great how this board can now blame all the ills of this system on the sup. The board is at fault because the board oversees the sup. Time to make this board accountable.
This board is not responsive to the community or the teachers. Schools have SAC committees, why don't we have a Super SAC of educators providing input to the board.
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hello I am Alex Wilson ha ha ha we win thank you for the acknowledgment. ps.I do not like to be called a little kid.
I am Skot David Wilson.....
My son just got home from school, where he went RIGHT after the meeting. I was chased away from the computer when he got home, and HE posted then called me over to see. I can understand why some people thought it was "disrespect", but the first stone was cast when his education was mitigated by policies that frustrate and overwork teachers.
How can anyone say to a child...
Pledge to the flag, but you are not allowed your RIGHT to free speech? How can we discuss the Revolution and Constitution, and deny a child their power to exercise those rights?
I told him he could only go and miss school if he has something important to add, and he decided to petition, and came home with 35 signatures. What could I say as a parent or an American to that?
It is HIS education at stake, not ours. He understands these things, and if you don't believe that, ask any of his teachers, especially Ms. Mobley and Ms.Tomisino at Ramona.
Alex chooses to watch History and PBS over Yu-Gi-Oh and violence shows. He has a good moral compass, and has a right to be pissed and speak out more than ANYONE else down there today.
The first insult came upon him, when his teachers don't have the time or resources to do their job. Before anyone dares judge this child, talk to him, about Bush, Hitler, Franklin, The revolutionary War, WWII.... bet he knows as much as you do, or more.
What did he say... he said "Look at me when I am speaking to you" to someone who shifted their eyes away, whom he came to address. He said not to speak out when he was speaking and call him "little kid" when he had an adult issue to present. He said "We have to grade our own tests" and "we need more resources". His words, not mine. I only told him to speak true, with respect, and from the heart, and he was somewhat respectful until he was ignored by Wise, insulted by him by him not even giving him the dignity to look at him when he spoke.
My son lost two classes, which he got the work for, but he showed more real class than most kids ever really do by standing up for himself, and his peers, who don't get the chance to speak, or know how.
I am making a citizen, an American, a human being with a conscience and a sense of responsibility. Thanks to you who see that, and to those who don't, I pity you. You can call him...781-9473, and see for yourself.... that is if you have half the courage he has.
Skot,
I don't think any of the blogs would suggest that your son does not have the right to speak. It is how he addresses others that is the question, whether they be his peers or adults. I trust that your defense of your son will also take that thought into consideration to give balance to the discussion.
It does. As far as defending him, he can usually do that himself quite well. It's funny how all the critics never take ya up on it when you challenge them..... Skot
Although I do not reside in Duval County, I have a vested interest in this issue due to the fact I have grandchildren in this system and a daughter-in-law which teaches. I would like to address my comments to Alex and his parents. Although I applaud the fact that Alex is bright, articulate and self confident enough to publically address the school board and Dr. Wise, I am overwhelmingly saddened at his rudeness and disrespect. Yes, Dr. Wise was rude, but we must teach our children better and not to respond to this rude behavior with behaviour equally disrespectful. So many children who have been taught the right of free speech, have not been guided to exercise that right in a manner that will gain future respect and consideration. Please Alex and Skot, take to heart the comments regarding this "attitude" so that Alex can go forward and become a successful adult, not a rude, arrogant person such as Dr. Wise.
Followed up on this...
I do, and he normally is respectful, although a recent incident has made him much more assertive, and sometimes he just forgets his place, and is still on the learning curve as to that.
He got no reply from Wise in mail he sent, and was upset that it didn't even get a standard form letter reply, and this was long before the whole thing started.
The attitude of the Board and Wise to ignore those they serve was the first "rude" thing, and his response was one of someone who had tried the proper approach and got ignored. That alone calls all bets off.
But my wife and I work with him all the time. He is thoughtful, reflective, and very concerned and compassionate and kind. Just don't do him wrong and piss him off by not doing the right thing, because he has a fury against things that are not how they should be.
Maybe if people were more like him when they encountered something wrong, maybe then they wouldn't test just how far they can go or what they can get away with.
I wonder what the tone of the "Give me Liberty or give me death" speech was?
Sometime polite is the wrong thing to be.
It is our malaise and allowance of misdeeds that is what voices should be raised against.
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